In this episode I am joined by Jake Pitts from the Black Veil Brides. We talk about how many Black Veil Brides fans have embraced Hatebreed, people’s obsessiveness with genre, camaraderie in rock, Memphis May Fire, Black Crown Initiate, songs with double bass drums on the radio, working with Bob Rock, choosing Heart of Fire as the first single on their latest self titled record, amps, and the passing of Jake’s mother.